Crikey! Thanks for brightening up a really dull, wet miserable Friday evening in Dublin...AND speaking the truth! More TAZ, More TAZ, MORE TAZ. Now let me see if I can make something, anything (maybe seasonal decorations?) out of the few trance tunes lurking in the deepest recesses of my collection. Cheers, Mister T.
FUCKING AWSOME!!! Major props to that cartoon..I could not have said it better. The truth hurts dont it!!!! Thanks a million. Keep it real. Keep it raw. Keep it house. The house that jack built!!!! DJ RMX
It's a true story. But it's a shame that you have to tell people what to do and think. What happened to the independent thinking? Why is everybody moving in groups? Is it the multi-information community that has disturbed our way of thinking? I don't know.... I say, re-establish the underground scene! Friends with friends makes a party!
Praise the lord for your efforts here! I put my hands in the air and sulute you with my glow sticks for finally articulating what we've all been saying since 1999! Thank you!!
bullshit , trance is a kult , Tiesto or Armin Van Buuren or someone else , it doesnt mather to me if hes #1 or hes #125 , i like the music not some fucking 80's screaming to the mycraphone about love , freedom and so on.. they all were in drugs and the only love was for it
If I ever do find myself at a rave ever again (Im 29 now ... they seem a little dated for me now ) I can guarantee you my eyes will not set sights on the DJ, and the only things he'll see is my ass :)
i've always laughed to see people from a similar musical culture hating on a slightly varying style from their beloved kind of music, black metalist hating on grungers, rappers hating of rnb, technoists hating on trancers, muhahaha those idiots are just trying to feel superior and fool themselves thinking they're listening to a *better* music
ridiculous waste of time from the untalented person who drawn this dumb cartoon, telling proper bullshit about things he doesnt even know about, and guess what? nope im not a trance lover, but i'd rather give a more lucid message while applying this story to people like madonna, maria carey, depeche mode,the cure, pet shop boys, kraftwerk, metalica, nirvana and in other words any mtv's vanity people who really are brainwashing trough the herrtzian waves (TV) INSTEAD of making us believe with your shitty cartoon that anything but trance is a *better* music. dude electronic music is mainly basic artificial sounds with stupidly sequenced repetitives melodies that some people conviced you to consider it as *music* for people with good tastes, techno or house isnt any better than trance, get it bitch and learn a bit of true musical culture. and its a sound engeneer talking here giving you a picture of what he is seeing everyday at work
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It's so hard to separate the music from the scene. I like the sounds of Goa, but I'm a headphone guy, I can't handle crowds. So though I listen to trance and know which "artists" I like, I've never thought of it as DJ worship.
btw Spiral Tribe are not cool either! They burn around Europe in stinky trucks that emmit tons of emissions, never clean up after themselves, and play shit music! I know, I used to be part of it until I realised I'd rather have a bowl of porridge for breakfast rather than a tab of acid! The KLF however are cool! Please come back and save our souls!
Well, all I wanna say is that people are individuals, and individuals like different things...The problem with alot of people is that everyone is trying to manipulate everyone else into loving the type of music they do. Just because you dont like Tiesto doesnt mean u go ripping on him. He did not make himself the god scene, the people did. Also, culture is changing buddy. Dont expect to see some new singer come up and sing the oldies, cuz the majority of his listeners would be people who lived the 50'6 - 60's during the late teen-twenty age. If u wanna keep ur culture alive, how about you open up a club where its all back to the 80's? I'm sure you will get all those longing for what you call "the real thing". Anywho, I do respect you trying to make you point of how that culture is dying out, but you dont do so by attacking the new culture and blaming it. Tiesto has been around for almost 2 decades. He made his way up the ladder step by step without jumping or skipping steps. So yeah, tc!
it's not about the music asshole! it's about what has happened to the state of american rave culture, which used to be about the party and the vibe. Now it's just a bunch fucked up assholes who don't know any better. and another thing there mr. sound engineer-house is for the soul!!
funny shit. fuckin glowsticks. the fact taht anyone is still even referencing them shows how behind & regressive the majority of dance music culture is. (i myself am on the broken beat tip, so trance music comes across as EXTREMELY formulaic & predictable) and TAZ's have NOTHING to do with raves. it is an appropriation. if anyone REALLY wants to know about TAZ's go read some frikkin Hakim Bey. oh..and i find it hilarious that ANYONE has a problem with pleasure. shows how enslaved to suffering they are. as for rave culture & repetitive beats, trance etc. we could talk about MK Ultra,Tavistock, and mindcontrol in general....but then most people aren't into teh awareness trip, they'd rather turn off then turn on. but then, it's all illusion anyway. and for those that think dj's have no skills..you must be real musicians who use no samples or phrases or anything like that & play every single note of your music on an actual instrument.oh, and you must have come up with your own scales and everything too. cus you are nothing but absolute creativity with no reference to anything that has ever come before.more than anything, it shows you know nothing about the skill of song choice, overlaying songs, etc. etc... (i am in no way defending lame dj's that do not challenge their skills or their audience. 98.9% of dj's are average, as in they do not stand out from the crowd and/or are not adventurous) and i have to wonder...a turntablist plays records too...but like an instrument, but they are STILL other people's records, so where do ya draw the line here? BTW, drawing lines is for insecure idiots. people who are creative break down barriers & cross boundaries. not act like neotribal pussies afraid of that which is not like them. grow the fuck out. broaden your perspective, there is room for everything & everything has idiots, i think it is a basic law of nature. haha anyway. comic is frikkin hilarious. when it all comes down to it...to each their own. if you do not like someone else's scene, create your own & stop bein a bitch.
BLA BLABLA BLA BLA...everyone has an oppinion. just let people be and like what they like. there is no wrong or right, better or worse, good or bad, new or old, real or fake...ALL IS RELATIVE, ALL IS ARBITRARY, AND EVENTUALLY...REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, NON OF THIS REALLY MATTERS.
the comic definitely as some good points to it. i do agree alot of people are looking and treating these guys as gods and they're not. I love their music, i respect it. but i see alot of conformity rathter then creativity.
Dude, I was at a party where everyone basically just ignored the DJ and faced the crowd... it was the shit.. We actually had him hidden away in the basement, so that we could get the REAL vibe.
If this doesn't seem drenched with sarcasm, you are an idiot.
Truth be told, you need people who want to play spectator to the DJ so that you, the party goer, can play spectator to those in the crowd facing forward, or else we would all be facing towards the door.
I don't like trance, I love techno, but god damn, honestly, you telling me there is a difference between the stardom of either crowd? Although, once again based on solely my last decade of experience, I've never seen big time trance DJs play at small parties... Which I am thankful for. :D
I'd have to agree with Mr. Sound Engineer tho. You like what you like, and to read something deeper into it is comparable to psy trance boasting a "better than thou" mystical cult. Not to diss on psy kids, because many of them are cool cats, but to effectively limit your party to just one scene as the new thing, when it has been around for ages, is nonsense. Just as it is with trance, techno (does hawtin count?), drum n bass, hardcore, any style in general. I like micro house, for example, and didn't even know that it was it's own genre for the longest time, attributing it to just house, which, really, is all it is with very short radio cuts pasted together in melodic fashion. But to state that you like the genre because it's new, and everything else is passe, is the argument of young children. You grow old, and you die. So does your music, even the latest electro break-country gabber-super dub-happy death core-techno babbling sound-of-today. Enjoy music for being music.
i am a trance dj and everyting you said there is bulshit i love wat i do and i do it for my fans
at my last concert in ibiza there were 1200 people an thay all were dancing and having fun i admit that thay ditend come becouse thay wanted to here here my music thea came becouse it was me playing it but that ditend meen that they dont love my music i have sold 4milion albums world wide and i am no 4 on the dj list so i have to be doing somting right
Chaos_Drive here, I just stumbled across this on the web and as a bedroom DJ myself, I have to say right fucking on! It's cause of bullshit idolatry like this that the culture has gotten all royally fucked.
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ha ha ha.. priceless!! you're all a bunch of wankerrrrrrs :-) really you guys gave me a good laugh!! the funniest part IMO is that the so called "trance-haters" (presumabley shoe-gazing technohipsters) compare themselves to easily the lamest sub-genre of electronic music out there. c'mon guys whoever likes tiesto or pvd or any 1 of those jokers doesn't know a thing about electronic DANCE musik n e ways. right? so why would you compare yourselves to these aspiring glowstick performers and flailing ravers..? ever heard the saying "guilty by association"? well it applies to you in this case. sorry :)
as for me.. well I would have probably never gotten past the semi-electronica of pink floyd or ned lagin if I hadn't been introduced to TRANCE music, specifically PSYCHEDELIC trance music. living in Europe in the 90's there was very little in terms of real honest live "music", and the standard "electronic" music played was useless commercial basura... at that time some friends in switzerland played me music from psychedelic TRANCE artists like hallucinogen,koxbox, process, jan and marcus, etc, etc, and the rest is history amigos..
..now almost a decade later I find myself enjoying some deep dubtechno like deadbeat or pole or some wacky idm from spoonbill, but you won't find me at a sweaty commercial club listening to armin van buren or tiesto. boOm~
I don't understand why some of you feel such a need to force your personal taste onto other people. some people like the traditional rave scene, and others prefer what it has come to be today (if they didn't, then it wouldn't be that way). but that's ok, because if you're having fun then it doesn't matter if you're facing the DJ waving your hands or if you're dancing with the crowd. both scenes still exist, so just pick which one you want to be a part of and let the others enjoy their show without being ridiculed and looked down on.
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fucking awesome mate, tell it! ;)
For a lover of all things jazzy it was outrageously funny to have the trance scene poked at with a pen ! Love it !
Crikey! Thanks for brightening up a really dull, wet miserable Friday evening in Dublin...AND speaking the truth!
More TAZ, More TAZ, MORE TAZ. Now let me see if I can make something, anything (maybe seasonal decorations?) out of the few trance tunes lurking in the deepest recesses of my collection.
Cheers, Mister T.
the comic maker can SHOVE THAT RAVE UP HIS ASS
DJ ROOL SO DOES TRANCE MUSCIC
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
lol spot on m8 right on the money..
FUCKING AWSOME!!!
Major props to that cartoon..I could not have said it better. The truth hurts dont it!!!! Thanks a million. Keep it real. Keep it raw. Keep it house. The house that jack built!!!!
DJ RMX
It's a true story.
But it's a shame that you have to tell people what to do and think.
What happened to the independent thinking? Why is everybody moving in groups? Is it the multi-information community that has disturbed our way of thinking? I don't know....
I say, re-establish the underground scene! Friends with friends makes a party!
tiesto aint that bad for a white boi....
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Praise the lord for your efforts here! I put my hands in the air and sulute you with my glow sticks for finally articulating what we've all been saying since 1999!
Thank you!!
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bullshit , trance is a kult , Tiesto or Armin Van Buuren or someone else , it doesnt mather to me if hes #1 or hes #125
, i like the music not some fucking 80's screaming to the mycraphone about love , freedom and so on.. they all were in drugs and the only love was for it
hey, next time you want to give credit to the guy who actually created the thing you posted?
If I ever do find myself at a rave ever again (Im 29 now ... they seem a little dated for me now ) I can guarantee you my eyes will not set sights on the DJ, and the only things he'll see is my ass :)
I like tiesto, and I like also other trance artist!
ahahaha sooo true!
i've always laughed to see people from a similar musical culture hating on a slightly varying style from their beloved kind of music, black metalist hating on grungers, rappers hating of rnb, technoists hating on trancers, muhahaha those idiots are just trying to feel superior and fool themselves thinking they're listening to a *better* music
ridiculous waste of time from the untalented person who drawn this dumb cartoon, telling proper bullshit about things he doesnt even know about, and guess what? nope im not a trance lover, but i'd rather give a more lucid message while applying this story to people like madonna, maria carey, depeche mode,the cure, pet shop boys, kraftwerk, metalica, nirvana and in other words any mtv's vanity people who really are brainwashing trough the herrtzian waves (TV) INSTEAD of making us believe with your shitty cartoon that anything but trance is a *better* music. dude electronic music is mainly basic artificial sounds with stupidly sequenced repetitives melodies that some people conviced you to consider it as *music* for people with good tastes, techno or house isnt any better than trance, get it bitch and learn a bit of true musical culture.
and its a sound engeneer talking here giving you a picture of what he is seeing everyday at work
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It's so hard to separate the music from the scene. I like the sounds of Goa, but I'm a headphone guy, I can't handle crowds. So though I listen to trance and know which "artists" I like, I've never thought of it as DJ worship.
OMG I AM HEALED!
OMG! I don't know if I should laugh or cry! I want to BE the next Tiesto. Damn me! LOL! John De La Mora aka DJ Latin Kiss. www.myspace.com/djlatinkiss
btw Spiral Tribe are not cool either! They burn around Europe in stinky trucks that emmit tons of emissions, never clean up after themselves, and play shit music! I know, I used to be part of it until I realised I'd rather have a bowl of porridge for breakfast rather than a tab of acid! The KLF however are cool! Please come back and save our souls!
I'm a huge fan of all things trance, but had to laugh at this. Nice comic.
Well, all I wanna say is that people are individuals, and individuals like different things...The problem with alot of people is that everyone is trying to manipulate everyone else into loving the type of music they do. Just because you dont like Tiesto doesnt mean u go ripping on him. He did not make himself the god scene, the people did.
Also, culture is changing buddy. Dont expect to see some new singer come up and sing the oldies, cuz the majority of his listeners would be people who lived the 50'6 - 60's during the late teen-twenty age. If u wanna keep ur culture alive, how about you open up a club where its all back to the 80's? I'm sure you will get all those longing for what you call "the real thing".
Anywho, I do respect you trying to make you point of how that culture is dying out, but you dont do so by attacking the new culture and blaming it. Tiesto has been around for almost 2 decades. He made his way up the ladder step by step without jumping or skipping steps. So yeah, tc!
it's not about the music asshole! it's about what has happened to the state of american rave culture, which used to be about the party and the vibe. Now it's just a bunch fucked up assholes who don't know any better. and another thing there mr. sound engineer-house is for the soul!!
funny shit. fuckin glowsticks. the fact taht anyone is still even referencing them shows how behind & regressive the majority of dance music culture is.
(i myself am on the broken beat tip, so trance music comes across as EXTREMELY formulaic & predictable)
and TAZ's have NOTHING to do with raves.
it is an appropriation. if anyone REALLY wants to know about TAZ's go read some frikkin Hakim Bey.
oh..and i find it hilarious that ANYONE has a problem with pleasure.
shows how enslaved to suffering they are.
as for rave culture & repetitive beats, trance etc. we could talk about MK Ultra,Tavistock, and mindcontrol in general....but then most people aren't into teh awareness trip, they'd rather turn off then turn on.
but then, it's all illusion anyway.
and for those that think dj's have no skills..you must be real musicians who use no samples or phrases or anything like that & play every single note of your music on an actual instrument.oh, and you must have come up with your own scales and everything too. cus you are nothing but absolute creativity with no reference to anything that has ever come before.more than anything, it shows you know nothing about the skill of song choice, overlaying songs, etc. etc...
(i am in no way defending lame dj's that do not challenge their skills or their audience. 98.9% of dj's are average, as in they do not stand out from the crowd and/or are not adventurous)
and i have to wonder...a turntablist plays records too...but like an instrument, but they are STILL other people's records, so where do ya draw the line here?
BTW, drawing lines is for insecure idiots. people who are creative break down barriers & cross boundaries. not act like neotribal pussies afraid of that which is not like them. grow the fuck out.
broaden your perspective, there is room for everything & everything has idiots, i think it is a basic law of nature. haha
anyway. comic is frikkin hilarious.
when it all comes down to it...to each their own. if you do not like someone else's scene, create your own & stop bein a bitch.
BLA BLABLA BLA BLA...everyone has an oppinion.
just let people be and like what they like. there is no wrong or right, better or worse, good or bad, new or old, real or fake...ALL IS RELATIVE, ALL IS ARBITRARY, AND EVENTUALLY...REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, NON OF THIS REALLY MATTERS.
the comic definitely as some good points to it. i do agree alot of people are looking and treating these guys as gods and they're not. I love their music, i respect it. but i see alot of conformity rathter then creativity.
fuck trance!!!!
Listening to trance music turns you into a fucking idiot!
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Dude, I was at a party where everyone basically just ignored the DJ and faced the crowd... it was the shit.. We actually had him hidden away in the basement, so that we could get the REAL vibe.
If this doesn't seem drenched with sarcasm, you are an idiot.
Truth be told, you need people who want to play spectator to the DJ so that you, the party goer, can play spectator to those in the crowd facing forward, or else we would all be facing towards the door.
I don't like trance, I love techno, but god damn, honestly, you telling me there is a difference between the stardom of either crowd? Although, once again based on solely my last decade of experience, I've never seen big time trance DJs play at small parties... Which I am thankful for. :D
I'd have to agree with Mr. Sound Engineer tho. You like what you like, and to read something deeper into it is comparable to psy trance boasting a "better than thou" mystical cult. Not to diss on psy kids, because many of them are cool cats, but to effectively limit your party to just one scene as the new thing, when it has been around for ages, is nonsense. Just as it is with trance, techno (does hawtin count?), drum n bass, hardcore, any style in general. I like micro house, for example, and didn't even know that it was it's own genre for the longest time, attributing it to just house, which, really, is all it is with very short radio cuts pasted together in melodic fashion. But to state that you like the genre because it's new, and everything else is passe, is the argument of young children. You grow old, and you die. So does your music, even the latest electro break-country gabber-super dub-happy death core-techno babbling sound-of-today. Enjoy music for being music.
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Genius and absolutely true!
i am a trance dj and everyting you said there is bulshit i love wat i do and i do it for my fans
at my last concert in ibiza there were 1200 people an thay all were dancing and having fun i admit that thay ditend come becouse thay wanted to here here my music thea came becouse it was me playing it but that ditend meen that they dont love my music i have sold 4milion albums world wide and i am no 4 on the dj list so i have to be doing somting right
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Tiesto and the whole chart "trance" nonsense absolutely killed the rave scene in the UK at least.
The rave scene acts now like a hard house poof scene.
If you want to make rave music then avoid these sounds at all costs.
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ha ha ha.. priceless!! you're all a bunch of wankerrrrrrs :-) really you guys gave me a good laugh!! the funniest part IMO is that the so called "trance-haters" (presumabley shoe-gazing technohipsters) compare themselves to easily the lamest sub-genre of electronic music out there. c'mon guys whoever likes tiesto or pvd or any 1 of those jokers doesn't know a thing about electronic DANCE musik n e ways. right? so why would you compare yourselves to these aspiring glowstick performers and flailing ravers..? ever heard the saying "guilty by association"? well it applies to you in this case. sorry :)
as for me.. well I would have probably never gotten past the semi-electronica of pink floyd or ned lagin if I hadn't been introduced to TRANCE music, specifically PSYCHEDELIC trance music. living in Europe in the 90's there was very little in terms of real honest live "music", and the standard "electronic" music played was useless commercial basura... at that time some friends in switzerland played me music from psychedelic TRANCE artists like hallucinogen,koxbox, process, jan and marcus, etc, etc, and the rest is history amigos..
..now almost a decade later I find myself enjoying some deep dubtechno like deadbeat or pole or some wacky idm from spoonbill, but you won't find me at a sweaty commercial club listening to armin van buren or tiesto. boOm~
I don't understand why some of you feel such a need to force your personal taste onto other people. some people like the traditional rave scene, and others prefer what it has come to be today (if they didn't, then it wouldn't be that way). but that's ok, because if you're having fun then it doesn't matter if you're facing the DJ waving your hands or if you're dancing with the crowd. both scenes still exist, so just pick which one you want to be a part of and let the others enjoy their show without being ridiculed and looked down on.
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